Land Claims in Kruger
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:09 pm
Fri Sep 23, 2011
Richprins wrote:Coincidentally spoke to a parent in Department of Land Affairs, and she says one should be cautious of believing statements that 60% of Kruger is under Land Claims.
For a start, the Southern Section was proclaimed in 1900, long before Apartheid, and there are actually no claims there relevant to the 2004 cutoff date whereby said claims had to be submitted.
The "Tribal land" issues re Nkambeni and Mdjedjane actually fall outside the original Park.
Furthermore, there are very strong directives from the government of the present regarding "rezoning" of Sanparks land re. remaining as conservation land, regardless of new ownership...a long list of priorities and "conservation status", of which Kruger Land obviously ranks at the top!
She doubts very much whether the figure of 60% is valid, as is proclaimed currently by Sanparks as a reason for appeasing local communities rgarding commercialisation!
Once again, areas further North which are under "claim", have passed their "sell by date" many years ago, according to law, and should be defunct.
Makuleke was the only one actually sealed and delivered with due process.
She actually said it was a smokescreen, these alleged "new" land claims. And stem from "success" in provincial Parks such as Songimvelo...
Lisbeth wrote:Interesting is not the word I would choose, worrying is what comes to my mind :? An excuse for favouring the communities? They do not really need an excuse for that if they have the ...."We are empowering our communities by ensuring that they take equity of between 20-30% of these hotels as part of our corporate social investment programme and a commitment to sharing benefits beyond boundaries. "
Is this "The main reason to celebrate National Parks Week is steeped in acknowledging such and many other successes of our parks. It is a painful reality that the process of establishing parks before the advent of democracy in South Africa was characterized by the alienation of black people from their land and property.
The conservation strategies of the past failed to consider the interests of local people and disrupted existing indigenous management systems.
Therefore, the National Parks week is one of the strategies which represent a fundamental shift from the colonial approach and the government is ensuring that, through the programmes such as People and Parks, Kids in Parks and Kudu Awards which allows our people to visit these parks in order to connect to the very core of our nature." a smoke screen for something else??
Mel wrote:Okay, I read RP's post three times by now and I think I might have an idea
what this is about. Please, correct me if I'm wrong:
Sanparks claims that 60% of Kruger is under land claim by people
who lost that land some time ago and who would actually be the legal owner.
In order to keep Kruger Kruger and not have to cut off land for the legal
owners, Sanparks has to raise funds to be able to compensate those
lawful owners finanically? And implicitely, the planned hotels are one way
to earn that money?
Sorry, for being such a stupido, but I swore to myself that I'll never make the
same mistake again as I did with the hotel development - not asking
for clarification of what I didn't understand.
Richprins wrote:You're not a stupido!
The land claims in Kruger have/should have been settled/rejected by another government department, land affairs, a decade ago, and has never been a massive issue until this year! Now Sanparks is "suddenly" stating it to be a "Major threat" to Parks, while it is actually not their problem at all!!!!!!
The relevant department deals with that aspect, and is very strict, otherwise Kruger would have half disappeared years ago!!!
Sanparks now feel the urge to use this as another smokescreen, as the opposition to commercialisation is increasing, and the race card and EIA have blown up in their faces, IMO!
Suddenly it is "community" this and "community" that, while they were for damned sure not consulted or informed when the hotels were approved in 2008!!!!
How can a "cash-strapped" Parastatal suddenly be expected to support a strictly political process financially!?
Kruger already provides an indirect R2 billion plus to the local economy annually...that is a recognised fact, and the piddling little amounts mentioned are purely promises made before the local elections, IMO!
Some provincial parks such as Somgimvelo were granted access by local tribes through due process years ago, while still meant to remain primarily conservation land, but have turned into an absolute disaster, mostly through mismanagement of funds, and actually represent a huge financial loss.
This was even on Carte Blanche recently.
However, the neighbouring cattle farmers made a short term gain, and that is all they care about!
Lisbeth wrote:The picture is getting darker and more ominous with every day that passes and also more confusing, but that is maybe what they want. There are too many fronts, too many details, too many interests and too little real information and thus the speculations start........I am getting lost, the picture is fading
Richprins wrote:Don't get so depressed! :lol:
It shows they are getting desperate!
Lisbeth wrote:Not depressed, demoralized :( Too few are thinking far enough ahead and that goes for the public, the media and the conservation organizations
Roan wrote:Richprins, you have made a very sensible post with facts ! Well done![]()
Just shows how far they will go to justify their current plans for more development in the park :roll:
Mel wrote:Thanks for the further explanation, RP!![]()
This is getting more dubious by the minute, methinks.
But I agree with RP, it seems SANParks is desperately looking for
justifications for their development projects. :roll: