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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:39 pm
by Toko
Does not look like this to me

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 8:12 pm
by Toko
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http ... JcBEK0DMBQ
similar to this one

(but the Id there might be wrong

)
from Pretoria, an Allodapula (there are several species in the genus, perhaps with different distribution)
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http ... JcBEK0DMBQ
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:01 pm
by ExFmem
While looking up
A. variegata info., I found the following info. regarding the bubble shown in BluTuna's photos in his entry in the book, that maybe you can add to his entry?
As seen in BluTuna's photos, the bee has a water droplet at its mouth, which is referred to as "bubbling", or "tongue-lashing". The purpose of this is for water homeostasis or regulation. Manipulation of nectar or water on the tongue is extensively used by a variety of bees to increase evaporation for either nectar concentrating or cooling purposes.
After drinking the dilute nectar of
Aloe arborescens, female allodapine bees,
Allodapula variegata and
Braunsapis sp., concentrate it on the tongue by repeated regurgitation, evaporation and re-ingestion presumably before mixing it with pollen and feeding it to their larvae. Oral evaporation of excess water compensates for less than ideal nectar concentrations.
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/212/3/429.full
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 11:42 pm
by ExFmem
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 11:47 pm
by ExFmem
Toko wrote:BluTuna wrote:Sunday morning, another exquisite autumn day.
A new Beetle.

This is also a hairy darkling beetle (
Lagria)

Also, from most of the pics I see on Google Images for Lagria vulnerata, BluTuna's, above, looks more like it than mine

Maybe post his as the species itself and keep mine as "possibly"?
http://www.google.com/search?site=imghp ... ch&imgdii=_
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:50 am
by Toko
ExFmem, have added the infos
For the Lagria, I don't know if any of them is Lagria vulnerata, would not claim anything here
There is on ispot a comment that the entire genus and tribe is mess in terms of classification
We post BT's as a Lagria sp, I'd say

and you can remove the "possibly" for yours if you think? Or you leave it

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:15 am
by Amoli
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:22 am
by Toko
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 3:25 pm
by Amoli
Super

so glad I could contribute.
Would you do the entry Toko - and thanks a lot.

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:55 pm
by Toko
Had another look, it's Allodapula !!!, perhaps not variegata, but good enough for Allodapula sp.
One of these
http://www.waspweb.org/Apoidea/Apidae/X ... /index.htm