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Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:01 am
by Toko
0/* birders

As per Grumpy's suggestion, we could add another index list, so I have posted this one

Full list sorted by Roberts number


Please let me know, what you think: Should we go ahead with the two lists? If so, mods would update the new list step by step (be patient please, it won't be done within a few hours 0: )


0() Feedback please!

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:08 am
by Amoli
It would be super to have both lists.

The first one I use when a look for a type bird. Then for the write-up it would be great to check with the Roberts number.

I vote for both \O

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:44 am
by Flutterby
Wow Toko...you are steaming ahead!! \O \O

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:52 am
by Toko
0' 0' 0' Is that your feedback, Flutty?

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:56 am
by Flutterby
Yes!! :twisted:

I think it's a great idea. \O Can I help with the index?

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:11 am
by Toko
:twisted: No, but you can go and update the old entries and add more info =O: =O: =O:

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:23 am
by Flutterby
\O

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:30 am
by Grumpy
Suggestion: As they say in the classics, "Measure twice and cut once", and "fail to plan and you plan to fail"

Some of my suggestions are quick and easy, some will take more time, energy and effort, while there may be some that are simply off the wall. As a "thinker" rather than a "do-er", please stop me if you believe I am going over the top regarding suggestions.

I like the idea of having both lists, but there MUST be another method of achieving this. On a technical level, there should be a method of using one list, a complete list of Southern African birds, with the associated Roberts number, that can be sorted either by number OR alphabetically (and searchable!). Each index entry that has associated text and photographs should be linked to that text/photograph, providing an easy view of entries that are still missing.

But as the comment in the first line suggests, take a step back and answer the following:
- what is the ultimate objective of this initiative?
- who will exploit/access it?
- where will it be accessed from?
- where will the information come from?
- who can update it?
- how will it be exposed to all that could use it?

When these questions have been answered, agreed to, and accepted by the committee, progress towards the ultimate objective can continue in a planned and structured way. This is sure to be a learning process for all, but the lessons learned along the way can only lead to improvements in the final deliverable.

Finally, once the framework for this initiative is settled, it can simply be transferred to the other reference initiatives, being mammals, reptiles, trees, invertebrates, and any other reference material relating to the African Wild environment. What is to stop these reference initiatives not become the PREFERRED REFERENCE site for all African Wildlife internet searches?

Yours,
"Ramblin Rose" O** =O:

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:39 am
by Flutterby
Hi Ramblin Rose! -O

Our current index is alphabetical..what do you think about adding the Robert's No. to that index? Unfortunately, it would not then be able to be sorted, on the forum, by number.

Re: Comments and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:48 am
by Toko
0/* Hiya Ramblin Rose =O: =O: =O:
Grumpy wrote: I like the idea of having both lists, but there MUST be another method of achieving this. On a technical level, there should be a method of using one list, a complete list of Southern African birds, with the associated Roberts number, that can be sorted either by number OR alphabetically (and searchable!). Each index entry that has associated text and photographs should be linked to that text/photograph, providing an easy view of entries that are still missing.
Here on the forum, the only way to set up indices, is what I have posted. We can only work with two lists: one sorted by number, another one sorted alphabetically.
Both indices are "active for search": click on the underlined text, and you get the entry (photo and info)

=O: That's what we have with the software used here on the forum -O

Grumpy wrote:

But as the comment in the first line suggests, take a step back and answer the following:
- who can update it?
Only mods, or the original poster of the entry (can edit). That's why we have this comment thread here, if someone wants to add another photo or additional infotext, or correct something, we post it here and a mod will come and edit the original post.