Legalising International Trade in Rhino Horn ???

[Richprins]

It's not only SanParks...they have huge pressure on them, and have made a decision.

The private owners, well some, have similar stockpiles, and want to sell them and retire! Why not, as they have spent a lot of money buying and keeping and protecting and de-horning rhino!?

[H. erectus]

What are you saying RP??, believe me I hear the
big clanger in my head!!!

Most rhino poaching is in fact not "poaching"
rather would be called "harvesting"!!

We have a problem!! The stockpiles are ascending,
and financial gain is, but a grasp away!!!

Now this is where I back off because what goes for
the Goose goes for the Gandor too,

[Richprins]

Harvesting is fine IMO...that's why a lot have been sent over to China to be farmed and dehorned every few years! Even better!

[H. erectus]

Ok RP, get your drift!! which I seem to believe would
justify some sort of exchange program!!

Two flat eyes in exchange for a long prong!!

Lets feast in cultural mis- understanding.

Where will this argument ever end????

We all know KNP was overstocked with rhino!!,
and Kie., only wish that the idiot who created
this scenario will someday rest in peace, with
a rhino horn up 'is behind,

[Flutterby]

SCHALK MOUTON
24 January, 2013 00:08


With only a month before the world decides whether to legalise trading in rhino horn, an Oxford mathematician has warned that not enough is known to establish the effect of such legalisation.

Professor Colin Please of the university's applied mathematics department said there were many "holes" and "uncertainties" in the data, making an assessment of the effect of the proposed legislation on the animals' future suspect.

"We simply don't have all the info to say what might happen."

Please is a member of the Mathematics in Industry Study Group, which met at Wits University, Johannesburg, last week. The group spent a week trying to create a mathematical framework with which to study the effects of poaching and the legalisation of the trade in horn taken from South Africa's white rhino.

The Department of Environmental Affairs announced yesterday that 32 rhino have been poached this year: 18 in the Kruger National Park, six in North West and five in KwaZulu-Natal. Limpopo lost two rhino and one was killed in Mpumalanga.

Last year 668 were killed.

"The rhino trade is very similar to the drugs trade. But in the drugs trade it is not obvious how much is produced, whereas in the rhino trade you know almost exactly how much is produced because you know how much is poached," said Please.

"In certain areas you know more, but in other areas it's a black market, so you really have no idea about [factors such as] market prices and you can't understand the financial and power structures, and the flow from here to the Far East."

The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species is expected to debate the proposed legalisation on trading in rhino horn in Thailand in March.

Trading in white rhino horn is prohibited by Cites, to which South Africa is a signatory. There is much debate about legalising the trade, with many private rhino owners in favour and most wildlife organisations against.

The participants in the meeting at Wits will try to establish how much rhino horn is used in China and Vietnam, and when the rhino can be expected to become extinct.

[Toko]

Might be true. The proponents would have to present very good data and facts, otherwise they would never convince the European countries to agree.

There is not enough scientific research done to determine the likely effect of a change in trade policy.

As I see it, the European Union will put much pressure on CITES to never have the ban lifted.

[Richprins]

"The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species is expected to debate the proposed legalisation on trading in rhino horn in Thailand in March."

[Sprocky]

"The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species is expected to debate the proposed legalisation on trading in rhino horn in Thailand in March."

The next paragraph...

The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species is expected to debate the proposed legalisation on trading in rhino horn in Thailand in March.

Trading in white rhino horn is prohibited by Cites, to which South Africa is a signatory. There is much debate about legalising the trade, with many private rhino owners in favour and most wildlife organisations against.

I wonder why???

Those in favour stand to benefit financially! But, who of them really care about the Rhino???

[Richprins]

They don't care! But maybe once the market is flooded it will have an effect!?

[iNdlovu]

They need to update the article and say that SanParks is in favour of selling off their stock before it turns to dust. Grab the money whilst they can
How the hell will the market ever be flooded with billions of eastern people out there, smell the roses RP